
True Church Discipline
Oct 31, 2011 by Craig Blomberg | 13 Comments
"If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses’.” If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector (Matt. 18:15-17 NIV)
Growing up in a mainline Protestant church, I had no idea there was anything such as church discipline in the modern world. Matthew 18:15-17 was never discussed, much less implemented, even when church leaders gratuitously divorced their spouses after beginning affairs with other individuals.
In the evangelical churches I have participated in during my adult life, there has always been a policy regarding church discipline, attempting to be true to the teaching of Jesus in this text. But a number of exegetical observations are often overlooked:
First, nothing in this passage limits the sin to certain kinds of offenses deemed particularly serious. Matthew 5:23-24 could suggest that any individual’s priority is to deal with ways in which others in the congregation believe he or she has sinned against them. But for most small offenses, people should be able to deal with things privately, precisely the first step in the process. A willingness to freely apologize, even when one feels perhaps only partially responsible for an offense, can go a long way toward peacemaking, a task Jesus calls blessed (5:9)
Second, a lot of minor offenses can easily just be overlooked, for the sake of keeping that same peace. Only when there is a pattern of repeated, sinful behavior is it usually necessary for there to be intervention. Part of the process Jesus depicts, starting from complete privacy, is also to limit the number of people who know. The worst thing to do, but often the most common thing we do, is to complain about others to everyone but the persons themselves. Sometimes they don’t even know we’ve been hurt! This must be avoided at all costs.
Third, the different meanings of “witnesses” in English cause unnecessary confusion. I have often had people ask me, “How can I bring one or two witnesses if no one witnessed the offense?” This question confuses the concept of “eyewitness” (Greek autoptēs) with “one who testifies” (martus, the word used here). The point is not that the people must have prior knowledge of the offense, much less have actually seen it, but that they can testify after the meeting between the offender and offended as to what was said, how people reacted, and so on, so that it doesn’t come down to a case of “he said, she said.”
Fourth, there really isn’t any way to make “tell it to the church” mean “tell it to the pastor” or “tell it to the elders” or some other subgroup of the church. Perhaps involving a body of church leaders as an intermediate step between the meeting with one or two witnesses and telling things to the church is a wise idea, especially in all but the smallest of churches. If there is any chance that reconciliation can occur—repentance, followed by forgiveness and restoration of relationship—then the fewer people who know the better. There is wisdom in the principle of involving no more than those people who already know about a problem. But the “church” is the entire gathered assembly. Telling something to the church is the last step before disfellowshipping, and if there is the possibility that such a dramatic step must be taken then the entire body of believers must be informed and must be informed at least of the basic issue at stake. In today’s hyperlitigious society with confidentiality laws run amuck, churches who actually intend to implement church discipline need to have language in their by-laws and in agreements that members sign, approved by legal counsel, waiving the right to sue the church in such instances.
Finally, treating someone like “a pagan or a tax collector” means treating them like a non-Christian. Jesus was actually remarkably solicitous toward the immoral outsiders of his day, but he did call them to repentance. The only purpose for church discipline anywhere in the New Testament is always remedial, even if in extreme cases, the rehabilitation comes only after death! In this context, however, Jesus is not contemplating anything that extreme, not even full-fledged excommunication or disfellowshipping, but merely the exclusion of people from offices or gatherings that are limited to believers. If and when they repent, and demonstrate the genuineness of that repentance (which by definition is a change of action, requiring a period of time to show that the behavior truly has changed), then they may be reinstated, both to church membership and to leadership. In our fractured modern societies, in which full excommunication typically leads to a person merely going to another church that asks no questions or becoming embittered against the church, and possibly God, altogether, a much more effective approach is to declare the congregation’s love for an offender right from the beginning and offer a process of restoration and accountability that even before reinstatement does not require them to stop attending services (assuming those services are open to non-Christians) but certainly to refrain from the Lord’s Table and any gatherings open only to believers.


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J Kanz Oct 31, 2011 11:07am
Dr Blomberg,
Thank you for your wise counsel. We were involved in a rather painful discipline process last year. One of our good friends was caught in a pattern of lies and slander toward the pastors. Because we were so closely involved with the family, we were able to observe, first hand, the actions of the pastors. They appeared to handle the discipline according to Matthew 18. The person continued to slander the pastors publicly even after breaking fellowship.
In the model you discuss in your final paragraph, I am wondering what effect merely excluding someone from gatherings and offices might have upon the rest of the congregation. Are there situations when a person's sin has such a significant effect upon the congregation or the credibility of the leaders that full ex-communication is necessary or appropriate?
Barry Applewhite Oct 31, 2011 2:01pm
Thanks for your usual insightful and merciful outlook. Plus, you always have the Bible as your foundation for action. That's where many get off track.
-Barry
William Combs Oct 31, 2011 7:45pm
Dr. Blomberg,
A pastor friend had the following comments about you excellent post. I think he raises a good point(s):
I agree with everything Blomberg says, except perhaps the matter of 'two or three' being witnesses only to the confrontation between offended and offender. If that's the case, it certainly seems that Jesus is using 'every word established by two or three witnesses', quoted from Deuteronomy 17:7 and 19:15, differently that Moses did. It's possible that Jesus is using the precedent in Moses as a principle to be followed, but it must be conceded that in Deuteronomy the witnesses were eyewitnesses to the offense.
This also does not seem consistent with the way Paul uses the phrase in 1 Timothy 5 as protection for pastors against false accusations. There, it seems it has to be that two or three have seen the pastor engage in what is alleged. Otherwise, I don't see how it serves to protect the pastor at all if it's merely a witness to the confrontation.
Now, I suppose there's not great harm in using witnesses in that way (as witnesses to the confrontation), but the difficulty arises when the accused denies that he committed the act. Are the witnesses to 'testify' as to who they think is telling the truth? For my part, I would not allow anything to move to the church phase unless guilt has been absolutely established. The testimony of two or three about who they think is telling the truth would not be enough for me. I wonder if it would be for Blomberg or others.
Bruce Harp Nov 1, 2011 3:57am
Dr. Blomberg,
My experience with church discipline has proven the the truth of God; loving someone to die for them and simultaneously loving someone to let them go. Church discipline seems to have a deeper meaning as it conforms us to the image of Christ. I have discoved that I have had to approach men whom I have grown very close to. As I approached them, I knew the results could go one of two ways. Unless the one-on-one confrontation goes right the next two steps in the process are the most difficult and take our souls into that spiritual stress that opens truths we could not comprehend about God. Church discipline isn't only about protecting the flock from damaging sin, it is also about a revelation of truth to the one willing to take the responsibility God has given them in faith.
David Anderson Nov 1, 2011 7:55am
excellent.
Craig Blomberg Nov 1, 2011 10:04am
Thanks for all the excellent comments and questions. Yes, there certainly is a time and place for fuller excommunication if a person persists in causing trouble for a congregation. I'd support that by turning to Matthew 10, though, and the "shaking the dust off one's feet" or Titus 3 with reference to the factious.
I'm puzzled by the cross-references to Deuteronomy and 1 Timothy because neither of those refers to eyewitnesses either--neither from the vocabulary nor the context. these passages are also talking about testimony, which may of course be based on eyewitness experience but certainly doesn't have to be, neither in ancient lawcourts nor in modern ones.
Scott J Nov 1, 2011 1:31pm
What should we do in cases of adultery? I know the answer seems straightforward, but here's why I ask: when two people are involved, and one has been sinned against, is it wise to restrict who knows the nature of a "moral failure" for the sake of the one sinned against? That is the approach the elders at my church have taken with a couple cases recently.
I can see the wisdom in protecting someone who has already experienced some terrible things, but I also see the biblical need to expose the other person's sin during the process of church discipline. How do you balance the two?
William Combs Nov 1, 2011 3:52pm
Dr. Blomberg said:
“The point is not that the people must have prior knowledge of the offense, much less have actually seen it, but that they can testify after the meeting between the offender and offended as to what was said, how people reacted, and so on, so that it doesn’t come down to a case of ‘he said, she said.’”
and
“I'm puzzled by the cross-references to Deuteronomy and 1 Timothy because neither of those refers to eyewitnesses either--neither from the vocabulary nor the context. These passages are also talking about testimony, which may of course be based on eyewitness experience but certainly doesn't have to be, neither in ancient lawcourts nor in modern ones.”
First, respectfully, it seems clear that Deut 19:15 is talking about eyewitness testimony. What else could it mean?
“One witness is not enough to convict anyone accused of any crime or offense they may have committed. A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.”
A witness’s testimony is used to convict someone of a crime. I don’t see how that is not a witness of the crime itself, or at least facts that support the case against the person accused of the crime.
Secondly, you seem to be saying that the witnesses are simply there to testify to the reaction of the person accused of the offense. But how does that help solve the ultimate issue if the brother who sins against you denies he sinned against you? You go to the person who you say sinned against you, and he denies it. You take witnesses, and again he denies he did anything wrong. What are the witnesses you take with supposed to testify to? How do the witnesses help the church solve the issue? It is still a he said, she said issue.
Damien Riegel Nov 1, 2011 4:21pm
Is it possible for "tell it to the church" to be referring to some kind of Jewish assembly of the city, rather than the New Testament church? After all, Jesus gave this before there was a church per se.
Gerrit Bruintjes Nov 1, 2011 7:15pm
Thank you for going through some of these passages, it has been interesting.
Unfortunately, I think the NIV 2011 confuses the issue somewhat, and I would be interested to hear your response. In verse 17 the word αὐτῶν is not translated (“ἐὰν δὲ παρακούσῃ αὐτῶν).” Rather than “if they still refuse to listen,” it should read “If they still refuse to listen to them.” This suggests that the two or three witnesses involved are not simply silent bystanders, but rather they are involved in the meeting.
If I could propose how to understand this. The “go and point out their fault” is the act of making a person aware of something being done that is sinful. The person may admit to the action, but does not believe the action is sinful.
Two examples to demonstrate:
Text not really applicable: Someone believes a brother stole from you, you approach him, but he denies it. You would not then follow this passage each time he denies it. It is not a question of pointing out his fault, but rather whether he committed the fault. (It would be wise getting someone involved to help determine whether a crime was committed, but this is not a case of discipline).
Applicable: Your brother is stealing from you by using a false weight. He does not think it is wrong. Here this passage would be more appropriate, with additional persons witnessing to the testimony of scripture. Their final goal is saving your brother from the snares of sin.
Craig Blomberg Nov 2, 2011 9:05am
Thanks to all four of you for your very perceptive comments and questions. I will do my best to respond to each.
Scott, I certainly wouldn't want to pass judgment on the situation to which you allude without knowing a whole lot more about it. In the case of rape, it is often very wise and compassionate to protect the victim. But in consensual sex, while one individual may in some respect be more at fault, both clearly shoulder some guilt and it would seem discriminatory (and therefore wrong) to inform a congregation of one person's involvement but not the other's.
William, sorry if I gave the impression that those who testified COULDN'T be eyewitnesses as well; I didn't intend that. My point was simply that they don't have to be, given the actual words used and the contexts in which they appear. So often, sexual sins (or theft, or slander, etc.) have no eyewitnesses. My point was to respond to those who have suggested to me that Matthew 18 can't apply in such situations (or who have at least asked how it could apply). I think you have answered your own question in your comments when you say "or at least facts that support the case. . ." That was my point about ancient and modern lawcourts. Convictions often occur even when there were no eyewitnesses to the crime, because of the persuasive nature of other forms of evidence to which people testify. And, you are also right that in some instances, it still comes down to whose word you believe. Still, even in those situations, there is value in having other people listen in on the conversation between the two aggrieved parties because they will often think of or sense something that leads them to believe one individual more than the other.
Damien, you're absolutely right that the church didn't yet exist when Jesus spoke these words. I just take it that, like on so many topics, he's looking ahead to when it would, from Pentecost onward. And yes, the underlying Hebrew behind the Greek ekklesia is qahal, the standard word for the assembly of God's people in the Old Testament (the closest equivalent to a Jewish "church" in those days). Given the rabbinic practice of settling in-house disputes in a somewhat parallel fashion, it's quite possible that Jesus is just continuing and clarifying procedures already in use in local synagogue (not entire cities, except perhaps in very small ones), though admittedly all the evidence we have for this comes from a few centuries later.
Gerritt, I agree with your two examples of when the text does and doesn't apply. The NIV 2011 did not change the TNIV rendering at this point and, since I was not yet on the committee until four years ago, I can only make an informed guess as to the reason for the TNIV rendering. It would be this: Once the commitment was made to inclusive language for humanity, the "he or she" of the third person singular parakouse was rendered as the singular or distributive "they"--even before the more recent findings that we relied on for the NIV 2011 that 84% of all written English today opts for this form of inclusivity in this kind of context. But once "they" had been used once, it becomes more confusing than clarifying to use another "them" with a different antecedent. It seems clear enough to me, from the context, that the only people to whom the accused party could be listening are the aggrieved person and the witnesses. But if you were led to think that the witnesses were merely silent, then the NIV 2011 has not proved as helpful to you here as the 1978 or 1984 editions. But then I go back to my original point in the blog that we have to recognize that "witness" here means primarily "one who testifies" rather than "one who saw," and one would certainly expect someone who testifies not to remain silent!
Paul Adams Nov 3, 2011 6:55am
Thanks so much for the enlightening article. As always, you shed considerable light on traditions that, on occasion, are not entirely biblically informed.
You say "There really isn’t any way to make 'tell it to the church' mean 'tell it to the pastor' or 'tell it to the elders' or some other subgroup of the church" and is spot on and in concert with your comments on 1 Cor. 14:29:
"when prophecy is taken to include Spirit-filled preaching, it seems clear that the ordinary ‘layperson’ is often in a better position to determine how well or accurately the preacher has communicated than are fellow-preachers, who are absorbed in the fine points of the theology or technique of the message” (1 Corinthians: The NIV Application Commentary, p. 279).
This, along with other passages like 1 Jn 4:1, 1 Thess 5:20–22 (also Deut. 18:21-22), suggests that leadership is not the only (dare I say final?) human authority on matters regarding doctrine and discipline. While I'm unconvinced of a full-blown congregationalism, these passages (and your post) must be seriously factored into a responsible ecclessiology.
Just thinking....
Scott J Nov 7, 2011 9:26am
Sorry, I wasn't clear before. A man committed adultery, and it was his wife the elders wanted to protect. So for her sake, would it be wise to not tell the congregation exactly what happened that is causing her husband to be disciplined?